why did verizon have to screw with the keyboard. i was seriously considering this phone until i saw that it lost about 10 keys and that the up arrow is between the n and m. NOT Cool
+1 to that. The time is approaching to switch to AT&T -- if for no other reason than the incomprehensible decisions Verizon makes with their phone designs. Isn't this crippled with respect to hardware too? Slower, less RAM or ROM?
I agree on the keyboard comment. I guess I'll just have to get used to it, since I'm tied to Verizon cause my woman can't afford the minutes if I go to another carrier. I do like the body shape a little bit more on this one than the fuze though.
@Juggernaut As far as I can tell, the hardware is not crippled as originally suspected. Though the additional $50 price tag has me a little miffed.
There was a leaked spec sheet that confirmed 192MB RAM (vs. 288MB in the Sprint/AT&T models, basically they took out a whole 96MB bank). No confirmation on the CPU speed, but history indicates that it will be a little slower, probably by around 20%, to improve what it likely to be a barely-adequate battery life.
That said, rumors are floating about ppcgeeks and xda-developers that you can put the Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon with a lot of work -- and cooked ROMs are emerging with larger page pool sizes that significantly improve the OS performance on the device, which is something tech-savvy folks should look at regardless of their carrier.
While yes it is spec'd with a lower amount of RAM it is not clear at this time whether it is physically less than the sprint or att editions or if it is how verizon is choosing to report it. Basically the OS could be eating those missing 96MB which leaves 192MB for the user which is the number Verizon is touting. If this was the case though, I must say I fail to understand the logic of it.
That being said I could be way off, but that was my impression so far.
I do remember reading on boygeniusreport.com that the processors are essentially the same, one being a revision that avoids Broadcom patent infringement. There has not been any underclocking as was initially speculated.
Interesting...the WM Experts' review of the Fuze lists 288MB RAM...but then indicates ~200MB total available. Though it says at most 72MB is taken up by Windows Mobile and Touch Flo 3D.
I guess we'll just have to wait until after December 1st to know for sure about the Verizon Touch Pro.
...I'm still getting a cooked ROM for the page pool increase though. :-)
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M @ Nov 23rd 2008 1:49PM
why did verizon have to screw with the keyboard. i was seriously considering this phone until i saw that it lost about 10 keys and that the up arrow is between the n and m. NOT Cool
Al @ Nov 23rd 2008 1:55PM
Doesn't the Sprint vs AT&T vs the Telus(I think) models also have a different keyboard set with the Sprint one maybe being the best of the group?
Juggernaut @ Nov 23rd 2008 1:58PM
+1 to that. The time is approaching to switch to AT&T -- if for no other reason than the incomprehensible decisions Verizon makes with their phone designs. Isn't this crippled with respect to hardware too? Slower, less RAM or ROM?
Bill @ Nov 23rd 2008 2:12PM
I agree on the keyboard comment. I guess I'll just have to get used to it, since I'm tied to Verizon cause my woman can't afford the minutes if I go to another carrier. I do like the body shape a little bit more on this one than the fuze though.
@Juggernaut
As far as I can tell, the hardware is not crippled as originally suspected. Though the additional $50 price tag has me a little miffed.
D @ Nov 23rd 2008 4:15PM
@Bill
There was a leaked spec sheet that confirmed 192MB RAM (vs. 288MB in the Sprint/AT&T models, basically they took out a whole 96MB bank). No confirmation on the CPU speed, but history indicates that it will be a little slower, probably by around 20%, to improve what it likely to be a barely-adequate battery life.
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/11/12/touch-pro-launching-on-verizon-november-24-in-stores-december-1/
That said, rumors are floating about ppcgeeks and xda-developers that you can put the Sprint Touch Pro on Verizon with a lot of work -- and cooked ROMs are emerging with larger page pool sizes that significantly improve the OS performance on the device, which is something tech-savvy folks should look at regardless of their carrier.
Bill @ Nov 23rd 2008 4:36PM
@D
While yes it is spec'd with a lower amount of RAM it is not clear at this time whether it is physically less than the sprint or att editions or if it is how verizon is choosing to report it. Basically the OS could be eating those missing 96MB which leaves 192MB for the user which is the number Verizon is touting. If this was the case though, I must say I fail to understand the logic of it.
That being said I could be way off, but that was my impression so far.
I do remember reading on boygeniusreport.com that the processors are essentially the same, one being a revision that avoids Broadcom patent infringement. There has not been any underclocking as was initially speculated.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/11/12/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-verizon-wireless-touch-pro/
D @ Nov 23rd 2008 8:11PM
@Bill:
Interesting...the WM Experts' review of the Fuze lists 288MB RAM...but then indicates ~200MB total available. Though it says at most 72MB is taken up by Windows Mobile and Touch Flo 3D.
I guess we'll just have to wait until after December 1st to know for sure about the Verizon Touch Pro.
...I'm still getting a cooked ROM for the page pool increase though. :-)