http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/ Engadget Mobile Comments for Sorry, CDMA: Telus, Bell finally fess up to HSPA, LTE aspirations http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgetmobile.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/They're going straight to HSOPA as they released news about a venture with Bell Mobility in Canada and next generation mobile networks in Frankfurt, Germany back in July.
Their roadmap opens up in 2010 which is when the HSOPA is slated to be released, and how ironic that the tests for 100Mbps transfer speeds was done in Germany as well around that time.]]>Oct 10th 2008 4:05PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 4:08PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 5:24PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/When everything mellows out with technologies and speeds, it will be down to the company's individual customer service and support once again as each company will no longer have an individualistic network feature/quality that changes circumstances with companies who need GSM, and others whom stay within Canada/US for business.

For the top three giants, TELUS is in the lead, with Rogers and Bell running in the silver and bronze.
If you were to take every company into account, if Fido was still without Rogers, they would still be the leader in customer service and support, as their history individually has gained them many J.D. Power & Associates awards in customer service.
Carriers regardless, looking at the technology now, 3G covers 60% of the largest Canadian cities while CDMA (3G) covers 99.8% of the Canadian population.

Lower average speed, but the best coverage = CDMA
Only slightly higher speeds (by amounts of kbps in Canada), and the worst coverage for 3G technology = GSM

Up to you.`]]>Oct 10th 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/But it's hard to say, now that TELUS is going with HSOPA.
These devices will have BOTH CDMA and GSM radios, so... it might be just carrier dependant, just like how it always is with CDMA.]]>Oct 10th 2008 4:19PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/BlackBerry Curve being the best sellers in the local dominion of Toronto.

1997/1998 - ClearNet turns into TELUS Communications Corp and creates TELUS Mobility Corp.
2001 - Consumers upgrade into new EVDO network devices
2004 - Consumers upgrade/OTASP into new EVDOrA network devices
2007/2008 - Consumers renew into newer handsets with greater capabilities such as e-mail, XM satellite radio, web

And now that's through thinking every 3 years (the norm here in Canada) you're able to upgrade with a VERY generous offer from TELUS.]]>Oct 10th 2008 4:26PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/BlackBerry Curve being the best sellers in the local dominion of Toronto.

1997/1998 - ClearNet turns into TELUS Communications Corp and creates TELUS Mobility Corp.
2001 - Consumers upgrade into new EVDO network devices
2004 - Consumers upgrade/OTASP into new EVDOrA network devices
2007/2008 - Consumers renew into newer handsets with greater capabilities such as e-mail, XM satellite radio, web

And now that's through thinking every 3 years (the norm here in Canada) you're able to upgrade with a VERY generous offer from TELUS.]]>Oct 10th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 4:27PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/I think that would've been better as TELUS / CDMA would be the first again to bring the latest in the market.
(CDMA being the first one in the pool of 3G technologies)]]>Oct 10th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/
The headline, preamble, and discussion are all incorrect.

This will not layer GSM on top. They are going straight to LTE.

HSPA != GSM

http://www.financialpost.com/story.html?id=873515
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Yah, things made more sense when GSM (organization) and GSM (path) and GSM (radio) and GSM (infrastructure) and GSM (codec) all meant the same thing. Now it's just confusing as hell. To most consumers in NA tho, I think it just means "the phones with the SIM cards", or most likely to "work around the world".

GSM voice codec all the way! I use it every day!]]>Oct 10th 2008 8:08PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 5:27PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 5:39PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/
They'll do some BS press release that they're the first production with LTE by 2010 Olympics or something. But really it will just be demonstrative until the specs are ratified, hardware tested, rolled out.

Sure would be a fun time to be at TELUS - Moto and Nokia and Ericsson all wining and dining you for the right to sell base station equipment. Smart move on Telus/Bell's part too - now any soft/hardware for CDMA will be heavily discounted - and if not, your average Telus user simply won't see any upgrades in 3 years or more.]]>Oct 10th 2008 5:46PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 10th 2008 6:22PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/LG KEYBO, LG VENUS, LG SHINE, Samsung A523, Motorola RAZR2, HTC Touch Diamond, BlackBerry Pearl(ver2), BlackBerry Curve, HTC Touch Dual, Motorola Q9c, Samsung Instinct, LG Dare

Also the speculation for the network being foreseen as operational by the 2010 Olympics is very possible, being that the WEST is the court where TELUS plays their A-Game.

And for Ericsson to come back into the scene, that would be great, seeing that it would bring back quality into the devices (but that's just my personal hope that Sony Ericsson becomes supported by TELUS)]]>Oct 11th 2008 5:33AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 11th 2008 12:43PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/10/10/sorry-cdma-telus-bell-finally-fess-up-to-gsm-aspirations/Oct 16th 2008 6:03AM