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Overall, the phone is much more usable, stable, faster and smaller (feeling) than the Mogul and I'm VERY happy with this phone.]]>Jul 24th 2008 3:07PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 3:17PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
This is absolutely false! Yes, it has a higher resolution (vs the Mogul's 320x240) screen but it actually fits less information. I can fit 13 items/lines on my Mogul's today screen. On the 800w, its only about 8 or 9. Just take a look at the photos of the Today Screen in the above review and see for yourself. The screen is also significantly dimmer than the Mogul's. Many complaints of it over at Treocentral.

Also, the slower 333mhz processor that Palm chose to use in this device may be adequate out of the box since they've tweaked the OS but what's going to happen when you start adding 3rd party apps? Its going to slow down. There is no substitute for raw horsepower but Palm sure keeps trying!

Finally, the ridiculously small battery (its the same as the Centro, I'm guessing they are trying to save some money here) and lack of a flash for the camera (useful as a flashlight among other things) and combine it with the stuff I listed above and it just seems to me Palm is again up to its old tricks and trying to cut corners.

Palm's form factor and the WM OS tweaks they've done are nice but I just wish for once, they'd just combine their expertise in those areas and match it up with some decent internal hardware. 800w would appeal to a lot more people if they just stopped trying to cut corners. The Mogul is far from perfect but the 800w sure has at least its own fair share of problems also.

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The today screen doesn't show as much but since it has higher resolution you can turn the text down in PIE and see more information. I'm young and have good eye sight so I like it.

As far as the processor goes - with all the tweaks and extra RAM that the 800w has over the Mogul this phone feels 1000x faster. I have a ton of 3rd party apps installed already. If anybody can bog down a phone it's me. The real difference is the amount of RAM. I have never had to close an application because of lack of RAM.

The battery life isn't great. But, I work in an office with *almost* no reception. The *almost* makes it worse because it's constantly getting, then losing, signal all day. I can make it from 7:00AM-11:00PM without having to put it on the charger. That is with moderate use with all radios off except the phone. I'm going to get an extended battery when it's released (as long as it's a slim extended). Otherwise I'll just keep it on the charger during the day at work.

It isn't a perfect phone - but compared to the Mogul I'm very happy with it. It's actually the first smart phone I still liked after a week of use and I've had the Treo 700p, 700wx, Mogul, now 800w.

Oh and the speaker phone quality REALLY sucks. Pretty much unusable. Added to that suckiness - if you have WIFI on at the same time you are using the speaker phone there is even MORE static. The head set volume is okay but not as good as the Mogul.]]>Jul 24th 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
I didn't know how clunky the Mogul was until using the 800. I don't miss the Mogul's screen and really love not having to slide the keyboard out. Aside from the mediocre "maps" program, everything works pretty darn well. The fit & finish are great and the buttons feel just right when pressed. I honestly don't know what the reviewer is talking about with regards to the soft buttons. They're plenty easy to find, even in low light.

I held my friends 755P in one hand and my 800w in the other and am amazed at how much lighter and more fit the new Treo is. The old one feels like a brick in comparison, and I don't feel like I am giving up anything with the smaller size.

Really, the 800w doesn't compete with units like the Touch or the upcoming Touch Pro (or whatever they're calling it) because the form factors are different. I would say that this Treo's main competition are the BB Curve and 8830 which I might have considered if Sprint didn't charge $40 bucks a month for the BB service.

Bottom line, current or previous Treo users will like the evolutionary aspects of this device. Those looking for flashy design and (mostly useless) gee whiz features should look elsewhere. This is a very focused device and does what it is supposed to do very well.]]>Jul 24th 2008 6:47PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 3:27PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 3:44PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
IMO, it's chunky. I want something thin in my pocket :)]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=167408

Take a pick.
]]>Jul 24th 2008 5:06PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
so im going to go check it out tomorrow and keep on praying that Verizon picks this bad boy up in place of the now discontinued 755p.]]>Jul 26th 2008 12:51AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
--James]]>Jul 24th 2008 3:37PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
--el taco]]>Jul 24th 2008 6:33PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/"We never change our software! It's been great since 1995!"]]>Jul 24th 2008 3:45PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:02PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:15PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 8:24PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 8:45PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 11:11PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/I was gonna buy one. I went into the store to play with it, I thought it was the coolest shit ever. Then I tried to play with it and I couldn't even figure how to make a call... Or how to do anything actually.
Then apple Announced the iPhone. Didn't care much at first until I bought an iPod touch and realized the iPhones potential. Now I'm never going back to those dumb childrens phones with plastic keyboards and hard to use software. Apple has created the ultimate mobile computer. And into the future we go!]]>Jul 24th 2008 11:54PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 25th 2008 1:26AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Phone running winmo. Sorry for the mix-up guys.
However, it still stands that this phone runs the same software that I couldn't even make a phone call with! Ridiculous!]]>Jul 25th 2008 2:01AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Don't get me wrong.. I like new and awesome and shiny and cool... but stable in a phone means a lot more.]]>Jul 25th 2008 5:14PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
* EXTREMELY buggy so far. It was locking up for 5 seconds like every ten seconds, and the battery went from 100% to 5% in under 8 hours. I went through the task manager and killed everything, no help, I finally had to remove and replace the battery. Today the wifi just disappeared for no reason. Couldn't find any way to re-enable it and it no longer showed up in connection manager. Removed / replaced the battery and all is well for now.

* It definitely feels better in my hand than my 755P. Flatter and more solid all around - The best way to describe it is the Thinkpad of phones. The SD card cover is increcibly chintzy and I think I'll rip the thing off by accident sooner than later.

* The screen is more recessed (as stated above) and more 'squishy' than my 755P, I think the material and build is straight off the Centro. Same goes for the stylus. Bendy and cheap feeling.

* Windows Mobile 6 is better than 5 for sure, it's /almost/ usable. Not quite, though. I wish Palm would update their OS.

* No idea what the reviewers are talking about, I can find the buttons in the dark without issue.]]>Jul 24th 2008 3:50PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 3:58PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
I own the 800w and I've got to say many of the things you mentioned have to be due to hardware failure or a very, very bad user.

My phone hasn't locked up since I purchased it almost a week ago. It's very fast and never even stutters.

The screen feels solid (I pressed on mine and it didn't feel squishy at all).

The stylus sucks, I will agree.

The battery, while smaller, isn't that bad. I use it with moderate e-mail usage, lots of texting, occasional GPS and some mild web surfing. All-in-all mine will last from 7am till 11pm when I go to bed and even then it usually has some power left.]]>Jul 24th 2008 7:05PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Hey I got a better camera...wanna see?? give me your phones email address so I can send it.....yeah I have your number but that wont work, oohh how much did I pay for this?? like 300.......damn that is kinda shitty


I can only hope that the new interface palm is building has the today page (love it) ,picture mail, and a good facebook app (loved the one I had on the 755).]]>Jul 25th 2008 12:16AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 4:32PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 4:00PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
If I can't find something similar to the i730 for my next phone I may have to switch to something more like the Palms. ]]>Jul 24th 2008 6:03PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 4:14PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Palm has Nova - maybe - and aren't going to show it to us for months.

Minimally.
]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:17PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 4:23PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
I miss when he would go off about it on the Engadget podcast.]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:26PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Two things really should be trumped up: 1.) the keyboard is phenomenal. I was torn between the 800w and the iPhone 3G, and boy did I make the right choice. (And yes, I use my phone for work, not play, so losing half the screen just to use a keyboard is undesirable.) 2.) The screen saver with clock and message indicators is so simple, but not having to turn on your device to get that info is huge.]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:38PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Why don't they try using Live Maps? As far as WinMo goes, Live Maps is a better mapping site, than Google Maps. It gets into a few more features that Google leaves out. ]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
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]]>Jul 24th 2008 4:48PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/I agree with you, but wouldn't this comment be better suited to a
device that runs Palm OS? This is a Windows Mobile 6.1 device. Just
sayin'. J.S.]]>Jul 24th 2008 5:03PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Anyone know if the touch screen disablement is improved on this one at all? With the 700wx, if I disable the touchscreen while on a call it puts a notice across the screen DIRECTLY across the speakerphone and mute virtual buttons...two things I use regularly. I choose to not disable the screen during a call, though every time my ear enjoys opening a half dozen applications.]]>Jul 24th 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:09PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 8:51PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:36PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 5:45PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/
Anyway, can we expect this with the Palm OS (yet again)?]]>Jul 24th 2008 5:44PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/07/24/palm-treo-800w-review/Jul 24th 2008 6:07PM