The good folks at HTC left this little gem (pun totally intended) on our doorstep today, but as cool as it sounds to have one of the world's great Windows Mobile torchbearers just drop off its hottest new handset to us like it's an extra large pepperoni and mushroom, it's a bittersweet gift at best. Why? The
lacks both HSDPA 850 / 1900 and GSM 850 in its current incarnation, leaving it to cling to what 1900MHz EDGE towers it can find. That makes it an untouchable product for all but the hardest-core North Americans who are willing to throw both high-speed data and maximum signal coverage out of the window just to be able to put the pinnacle of WinMo 6.1 engineering in their pocket.
The box is... well, interesting. You've got to give them that, anyway. The outer cardboard trapezoid peels away to reveal a glossy black inner one, foretelling the polished sheen of the device itself. We recommend you stay pretty at all times when using this phone, because you'll see yourself constantly reflected at virtually every angle. Haircuts, teeth whitening procedures, clean shaves for the men, you know the drill.
Firing up the phone for the first time takes you through the typical customization procedure that owners of most Windows Mobile handsets will be well-acquainted with; it's an annoying but seemingly necessary procedure that just delays your impatient soul from exploring your purchase for yet a couple additional minutes while HTC sprinkles some flavor on the default Windows Mobile shell.
Once you get that taken care of and restart, you're presented with
TouchFLO 3D for the first time. Actually, not quite -- the phone prompts you to tap on the screen to fire it up for some reason, instead of taking you into it immediately -- but after you make it through that tap, you get to the now-famous home screen featuring the card-flip clock display.
It's right here, just one screen into exploring the fancy, graphics-heavy TouchFLO 3D interface, that you're left in awe of the display. The crispness of this thing is just not possible to convey without seeing it in person, thanks largely to a pretty ridiculous dot pitch achieved when squeezing 640 x 480 onto a screen just 2.8-inches in size.
We were struck by how deep TouchFLO 3D goes. Realistically, the average user could go weeks without ever coming across an old-fashioned Windows Mobile user interface, particularly if they're limiting their use to calling, messaging, media, and web browsing. With the exception of the browser, all of those WinMo elements have been replaced with TouchFLO-beautified ones, and the browser is sourced from Opera; as many WinMo owners already know, Opera's light years ahead of Internet Explorer Mobile in its current incarnation, and it looks simply stunning on the VGA display.
Talking about user input for a moment, we were bothered with just a hint of lag throughout the system, which made tapping on things and entering text vaguely frustrating. It's possible that HTC could fine-tune this with a future firmware release, but we're guessing that TouchFLO 3D combined with the high resolution are pushing that 528MHz Qualcomm core to its hairy edge. Another annoyance we found was the texture of the display. HTC has done a better job than some other vendors of making the majority of the shell finger-friendly, and swipe gestures are pervasive throughout the apps for scrolling menus, looking at pictures, changing albums of music, and the like. Problem is, the screen is sticky -- at least, it was for us. Even minor pressure made it difficult to swipe our fingertip over the screen, and on several occasions, we found our finger bouncing across the surface in such a way that we were accidentally actuating menu items that we didn't mean to.

Of course, gestures are just a part of the equation. If you're using this thing as your office away from the office, the keyboards are going to play a huge role in your productivity, and we think the Touch Diamond's set of them are going to really polarize users. We personally can't stand the two-letter concept introduced by
SureType, and that's the Touch Diamond's default. There are a couple QWERTYs in there as well -- one HTC's, one Microsoft's -- but the screen is too narrow for our fat fingers to get the job done on those. Naturally, your mileage may vary, and we know all sorts of folks that have no problem with SureType whatsoever.
Our hearts actually skipped a beat when we noticed that the Touch Diamond's phone settings offer the hope of reconfiguring the radio for UMTS 850 / 1900 and UMTS 1700 modes, despite the spec sheet assuring us that 900 / 2100 is how it rolls. Naivete and boundless hope kicked in, though, and we had a go at it. Bottom line: no dice. It lets you change the setting, but it ends up hooking up with EDGE anyway. Way to toy with us, guys.
So would we be queuing up for a version of this with the right 3G bands? HTC's done a tremendous job of hiding Windows Mobile 6.1's antiquated user interface, so we can put that little concern aside; what's more, it's hard to argue with the massive library of third-party software available for the platform, and for those worried about keeping their IT department happy, it's about as enterprise-friendly as they come. Physically, it's beautiful, liable to turn as many heads as any smartphone on the market today. Tell you what, HTC, we'll make you a deal: throw in 3G for both AT&T and T-Mobile, tweak the feel of the screen, and you have yourself a customer.
Either that, or we may just avoid the virtual keyboard controversy altogether and hold out for the
Touch Pro. Decisions!
Reader Comments (Page 2 of 2)
spm.peapot @ Jun 8th 2008 7:25AM
I am going to be a switcher. As much as I love the design of HTC diamond and as much as I have followed WiMo devices since Compaq's iPaq H3600, I can honestly say that the out-of-dated, ugly and unfriendly WiMo interfaces has finally gotten to me.
Ironically, it was the HTC Diamond's beauty made me realizing that it will be a heart breaker every time when I come across the fugliness of the WiMo. "Carefully treadding your path in heaven because you will fall to hell with one click."
Sayonara WiMo and HTC.
Andrew @ Jun 8th 2008 7:46AM
While all these animations and stuff are nice to look at when you have to use the phone every day for a long time I can see people getting really annoyed with watching them over and over again. The best transition effects are short but still give the item a solid, sturdy feel. Like on the iPhone or how Vista handles it's minimize effects in comparison to OS X.
Phoenix @ Jun 8th 2008 9:01AM
I see you have removed my comment criticising your review. Well. Since you appear unable to accept that there are issues with your review, I'd advise people to STEER CLEAR of it.
My points were:
You complain about lack of hardware keyboard then say you would rather buy an iPhone. Smacks of fanboyism, iPhone != hardware keyboard.
The real thing to recommend is a Touch Pro
You failed to see simple gestures and hardware points: the d-pad has a zoom wheel built into it. You failed to see this.
People buying this device will have a MANUAL. Most of TouchFLO 3D is intuitive, and for the parts that may need a manual... this is not even required if you read a DECENT review. Of LONG TERM, ACTUALLY USAGE rather than a few minutes failed pokings at a device by a bigoted fanboy. i.e. http://www.coolsmartphone.com 8 videos of a week of using the device. Have a look around, people.
The browser WILL turn when you turn the device. You obviously held it awkwardly or fucked up some other way. The reason (I'm guessing) that TouchFLO 3D wasn't designed to turn is that it is much harder to be finger-friendly in landscape. if you look at press shots of the Touch Pro, when the keyboard is extended, a "shortcuts" screen is shown. I'm guessing with it extended TouchFLO 3D is not available. It sort of makes sense not to allow people to turn the screen, although i would have preferred the option, with the shortcut menu thing shown when it was in landscape.
FREE SPEECH. Deleting a comment with VALID criticism of your review is NOT a good way to run a review site.
PEOPLE. Do NOT listen to this man!
dc @ Jun 8th 2008 9:53AM
Bring it to Sprint! My contract ends first quarter next year! Sprint is getting it in Q4 right?
cwj @ Jun 14th 2008 10:19PM
In the interest of saying something other than: "this phone is GSM, Sprint is not - please stop posting that you want it to 'come to Sprint'",
how much investment - capital, engineering and such - is actually involved in making one hardware platform compatible with multiple networks? Is there a big difference in the space needed for a GSM radio vs a CDMA radio? Is one more expensive than the other?
Gil B @ Jun 8th 2008 10:18AM
Hey Phoenix,
The reason I removed your comment was that it was too aggressive not to say a bit offending.
It's true that my review was not based on days with the device, and I mentioned it couple of times.
I accept some of your critics, but I wish you would have said it more nicely.
Believe it or not, I'm actually a Windows Mobile fan. But it doesn't mean I have to like every new device HTC releases, and it doesn't change the fact that I was dissapointed with the Diamond.
As I wrote, this is a beautiful device, but I still think it misses practical features I'm used to, maybe the Touch Pro is the answer...
My R&D Manager once told me that a good UI is one that is self explanatory, people don't like reading manuals. I really think that the UI is not intuitive enough.
Phoenix @ Jun 8th 2008 12:23PM
When you first boot the device you get a tutorial. With this, most people would be able to get on totally well. I accept you didn't see this.
You can't review properly on a device you see for 20 minutes, and that you don't tweak the settings on to the way you want to use it. That's a hands on. Linking to it as a hands on... I would not have been so critical if you had done this.
Phoenix @ Jun 8th 2008 12:24PM
and i still don't understand why you would complain about lack of a physical keyboard and then recommend an iPhone rather than a Touch Pro
bob cobb @ Jun 8th 2008 11:27AM
How does the web browsing compare to the iPhone? I still think the bigger screen of the iPhone, although lower res, would be more enjoyable to use, but I might be wrong. I need to decide on either this device, or the 3g iPhone when it comes out, and my main focus is on web browsing.
Richard Lai @ Jun 8th 2008 12:29PM
Hey Chris,
Send it over here in London - we'll test the 3G for you guys. :D
Gil B @ Jun 8th 2008 12:54PM
First of all, I can, and I did, as long as I say from the beginning to take my words carefully (which I also did...).
I think that at least some of my points were good: missing OK button is hard when you get used to it, why not talk about it?
The iPhone thing was a joke, and a nice one if I may... (how could you miss that?)
My blog is about taking the mobile stuff which interest me in an easy way. And for me this is part of the fun.
I invite you to check it out every once in a while.
Richard Lai @ Jun 8th 2008 12:59PM
@Gil B: was all that directed at me?
Clay @ Jun 8th 2008 12:44PM
Hi,
I just read Gil B "The truth about the Diamond" and I think that your opinion is based on 'which part iPhone is better than Diamond" without mentioning "which part Diamond is better than iPhone". From what I read, it seems that you must change your headline to "what I see from HTC compared to iPhone".
Diamond is a Windows Mobile device after all and HTC does not make the Operating System which you must not put the blame on HTC for some problem over the OS. I have been using Win Mobile from the Pocket PC 2002. And all I have seen is improvement from time to time with this Windows Mobile OS. HTC even make the Windows Mobile much better by adding TouchFlo. Let me add some note from your review.
no keyboard: you forgot to mention that iPhone also got no keyboard at all, but you said nothing about iPhone lack of keyboard.
missing ok button: you can assign the back button as "ok/close" in the start menu -> settings ->buttons (as i am used to the Win Mobile, I know this feature from the begining of Pocket PC 2002) also, I have been using HTC touch for a while, and I got no problem with the "OK" virtual button on the top right side. I assume that the diamond should be same because of the similar dimension and screen size. I can just easily move my thumb to the top right corner without moving the rest of my finger/hand.
image viewer: i think you can use wheel to zoom in /zoom out the image. and to move to the next image, you can see advertisement for the htc diamond in their website. they show how to use the touchFlo in their advertisement.
TouchFlo 3D: when you said you are bored playing with the TouchFlo, I think the touchFlo is great when you want to shorten your time accessing application shortcut, browsing picture and music. When you comparing to other devices, please compare how many step you need to do before you can access same information like picture and music. If you mention "bored within 20 minutes, try to compare to iPhone, you can only move left or right of the screen if you need to access program which I guess will make you "bored within 1 minute"
and the last one you mention :
I must have a good looking device!
Must have sliding windows!
Must have improved browser capabilities!
I must have the real thing!
I must have an iPhone…
Well, I can understand about the good looking device, but a sliding windows, improved browser capabilities and "real thing" is NOT an iPhone at all. What I can see that you are TOTALY being SUBJECTIVE at all.
Gil B @ Jun 8th 2008 12:56PM
Thanks for your comments, I liked the things you wrote.
I'm totally not an iPhone fan (not that there's something wrong with it...) but indeed - I think that some of the things HTC are doing on top of the Windows Mobile is good - but limited.
As someone who develops applications for Windows Mobile - I know the limitations but also know the huge strength of the WM platform.
I assume Windows Mobile 7 will be much better for all of us, until then - it will be hard to get the same look and feel the iPhone has.
BTW - try out the SPB Mobile Shell - I think it's even better than the TouchPro (even though it still has few bugs) in terms of shortcuts and stuff.
Clay @ Jun 8th 2008 1:00PM
It's true that my review was not based on days with the device, and I mentioned it couple of times.
I accept some of your critics, but I wish you would have said it more nicely.
> First of all, you should not mention that your '20 minute testing of a device' caled a review when you are not sure of yourself. because you are misleading people about your 'review', AND once again you mention "The Truth about the Diamond" in your headline while what you mention in your blog is only 'some part is true'. I suggest you change your headline to "What I think about Diamond" to not mislead people who read your blog.
Believe it or not, I'm actually a Windows Mobile fan. But it doesn't mean I have to like every new device HTC releases, and it doesn't change the fact that I was dissapointed with the Diamond. > If you
> If you are a true windows mobile fan, then you should pointing the problem to the Windows Mobile OS, not to the HTC Diamond
As I wrote, this is a beautiful device, but I still think it misses practical features I'm used to, maybe the Touch Pro is the answer...
> could you explain more about what practical features that you are used to that missing in the HTC Diamond?
Richard Lai @ Jun 8th 2008 1:07PM
@Clay: I'll raise my glass to your points. A brief hands-on is not the same as a review/"truth".
Clay @ Jun 8th 2008 1:35PM
Hi Richard,
Thank you. Its that I've been reading a lot of review of gadgets, which usually pointing out the pro(s) and con(s) of a device. And when I read Gil B's blog, It is absolutely not a review at all, and all he tried is comparing HTC Diamond lack of with the "good things" of his Treo and iPhone, and it will mislead people who do not understand about HTC Diamond. A good reviewer should not do this, unless he mention as well what this Diamond can do while the Treo and iPhone can't do.. And I just remember, iPhone is a gadget for "entertainment" while the HTC Diamond that using Windows Mobile I think more oriented to office thing (remeber ms word and excel). If you try comparing your Treo, you forgot to mention 3G, WiFi, 3.2Mpx Cam 640x480 res screen, etc.
Gill B, did you find how to change the shortcut for "OK" button in WindowsMobile OS now?
And, If you are really "taking your words carefully" I really think that you should not write this "try out the SPB Mobile Shell - I think it's even better than the TouchPro (even though it still has few bugs) in terms of shortcuts and stuff." because "Touch Pro is a Device" and "SPB Mobile Shell is a Software" which is not making any sense at all.
Gil B @ Jun 8th 2008 5:21PM
Well, of course I meant to write TouchFlo. Sorry...
It's funny how you guys become aggressive when someone is simply trying to say: "I tried it for a short while - and got disappointed..."
Call it a review, call it first time impression, call it personal feelings about something which involves technology - it doesn't change the fact that I was not impressed with it as was expecting to be.
And for the last time: I am not an iPhone fan (what is that all about? is there some kind of a secret war I'm not aware of? Can't I say the word iPhone without getting tons of complains? Next time I will say Blackberry...) I never had an iPhone, nor even an iPod for that matter. In fact - I don't even eat apples! ;-)
And in regards to Clay's funny comment about switching the OK button - I can do that, but once I do it - I won't have the 'back' functionality any more - right? the point I tried to raise was that I was missing those extra 2 hardware buttons which I'm used to. Some may find it a small concern - but for me it's pretty important.
Richard Lai @ Jun 9th 2008 12:29AM
@Gil B: I'd just like to say that it would be great if a review is started off with an open mind, possibly without comparing with other devices, and then you can move on to a different section which compares them. That way it'd be more neutral as a review itself.
Publication comes with great responsibilities, so reviewers should always keep an open mind and make sure the objective is achieved first: making sure that the device is fully reviewed by itself. Then you can extend it by comparing it with other things.
That's my two pence. Please don't be offended but I have a real passion in reading gadget reviews, hence my strong opinion.
Jedi @ Jun 8th 2008 2:51PM
Being in the UK and travelling to the States it makes sense to have a quad band GSM phone as well as many bandwidths for 3G as possible.
Sadly the Touch Diamond and looking at the specs the Touch Pro , they don't have these.
As mentioned in another comment, HTC have put these features on earlier models.
So where does that leave me?
The 3G iPhone... sure it's quad band but limited to what Apple allow me to run on it. Sure it could be unlocked but then you still have to keep unlocking it with each firmware change. Apple you have lost a lost of custom by not making the iPhone completely open.
The SE Experia X1. From the demos it looks like a posh front end of Windows Mobile screens, hardly as advanced as TouchFlo on the Touch Diamond / Pro. Sure it's quad band but I need a good UI too.
What I need is a quad band Touch Pro with full 3G and that isn't going to be in August when the Touch Pro launches..
Any other suggestions for smartphones?
Jedi @ Jun 8th 2008 3:01PM
"as many bandwidths for 3G"
I meant frequencies..
keithwwalker @ Jun 8th 2008 4:46PM
Question, does the keyboard work in Landscape mode? Wondering about the video performance too.
Final note on browsers, the Japanese Access company has NetFront 3.5 browser that BLOWS away Opera and everything else for WM6! Get the beta version if you can.
http://www.access-company.com/products/mobile_solutions/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
gm76 @ Jun 8th 2008 6:41PM
> Realistically, the average user could go weeks without ever coming across an old-fashioned Windows Mobile user interface, particularly if they're limiting their use to calling, messaging, media, and web browsing
I don't think you were aware of this but when a user writes a text message, he/she will be exposed to the WinMo UI.
engadget @ Jun 8th 2008 7:12PM
Review with 3 videos of the Touch Diamond in action:
http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=4745
Unboxing photos here:
http://www.digitalburn.com/index.php/2008/06/08/htc-touch-diamond-unboxing-videos-camera-samples/
OneLove @ Jun 8th 2008 8:35PM
Touch Pro FTW!
Steven @ Jun 8th 2008 9:31PM
"PEOPLE. Do NOT listen to this man!"
Free speech... not easy, is it? ;-)
If your comments were deleted ONLY because they were critical of his review I have to agree that this is indeed not a way to run a review site.
spc @ Jun 8th 2008 10:26PM
Dude your a nerd (not the cool nerds) your a mac nerd and thats bad stop shuvin your "iphone" in our face. not everyone likes it, we seek alternatives Nerd!!!!!
Shader @ Jun 9th 2008 1:04AM
Enough arguing about a review on a site that isn't this one, is that why we post here? 2 questions though. I don't know if you follow up and keep using the product after the review but if you do how is the battery life on it? I've been hearing different things from different places.
Second... question we all wanna know. Whens the give away? :)
Shader @ Jun 9th 2008 1:05AM
Enough arguing about a review on a site that isn't this one, is that
why we post here? 2 questions though. I don't know if you follow up
and keep using the product after the review but if you do how is the
battery life on it? I've been hearing different things from different
places.
Second... question we all wanna know. Whens the give away? :)
Shader @ Jun 9th 2008 1:09AM
Please delete double post
tony tordilla @ Jun 9th 2008 5:09AM
they have to fixed the tytn II first before i even consider buying a htc again...
Kirk @ Jun 10th 2008 11:05AM
Just FYI, the HTC Diamond Touch is now on sale in Thailand as well - despite Thailand's not having any 3G coverage, aside from some small test areas on Chiang Mai.
The price in the (always expensive) mobile store in Central World mall was 29,000 THB (about $900 USD) but a friend said he spotted it for 24,000 THB somewhere else ($730 USD).
Waaaayy too expensive for now, but prices tend to drop quickly on new mobile devices here. My HTC/Dopod S300 windows-mobile "flip" phone went from 17,500 THB to 7,000 THB in about six months. Another friend saw the phone for less than $5000 HK (about $641), so some of what we're seeing here in Bangkok might be tariff or just blatant markup.
Hans @ Jun 15th 2008 12:44AM
I am just wonder if touch buttons(call & end buttons below LCD) is too sensitive while you are talking to somebody....
szaszati @ Jun 15th 2008 4:55PM
Hi there everyone! If you'd like to read a full, in-depth review of HTC Touch Diamond, then just go and check out http://mobilearsenal.com/review/htc_touch_diamond_almost_there/foreword_packaging.html
Mark Benson @ Jul 1st 2008 9:40AM
Didn't HTC provide you with a screen protector film? I got one with my Touch, and I've since bought another genuine HTC replacement. While I know screen protectors aren't compulsary, I think you'd have to be mad not to use one if you get it free with the device. It may be that the screen is way smoother with the protector on, I know I have no issue with my Touch even after nearly 9 months of being in my pocket (albeit in it's mock leather sleeve) and daily use. Well, apart from my grubby paws always leave streaks on the screen if I use the TouchFLO gestures :o)
Chump @ Jul 11th 2008 1:43PM
I just spent the day with an HTC Diamond, unlocked running on AT&T. I currently use an HTC Touch, which I love, also unlocked on AT&T.
I have to say I'm a little disappointed. I definitely expected better. However, I do remember feeling the same way about the Touch, and a little customization and time getting used to the interface did the trick.
Anyway, here are some random observations:
The touchflo 3d looks pretty good, but is not very responsive, and tends to lock up on occasion. Often a "swipe" is mistaken for a "click". Simple tasks sometimes end up taking much longer than necessary.
On the whole the OS feels slow, which is also true of the Touch. There's more device memory and the processor is faster, but much of that gain is negated by the Touch 3d software. The soft keyboard worked really well when the screen is vertical. When rotated horizontally, it pretty much sucked. On my Touch, I use the spb Full Screen Keyboard, which works really well.
I prefer the original Touch's matte/rubbery casing and matte screen. After a year of hard use, it still looks great. The diamond, on the other hand, is full of fingerprints after one day. Size-wise, it's almost too small. I like the slightly extra width of the touch.
As stated in this article, the fastest connection I could get was on the EDGE network, no true 3G. The Opera browser is pretty decent. Pages loaded fine on EDGE, and great on Wi-Fi. The YouTube app is great (like the iphones). If they come out with others (Facebook,ebay, etc...) that would be fantastic-- of course that's already the case with the iPhone.
One thing I really like is the 4gig internal drive, which when you connect to a PC (or a mac in my case) gives you the option to mount it as a drive. Adding pictures was as simple as putting them into the "pictures" folder. Very nice.
GPS was nice. Google Maps worked great with the internal GPS. However, curiously, I couldn't find a version of Windows Live Search to run on the Diamond.
What could end up being the dealbreaker though could be the voice quality. All of the calls I've made so far have my voice sounding like I have a terrible cold. The sound on my end is great, but so far I've tested it calling from a few different locations, and my voice quality is terrible. I assume that non-unlocked versions running on US carriers won't have this problem.