http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/ Engadget Mobile Comments for Driver trouble makes angry mobile owners rush castle HTC with burning torches http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgetmobile.com en-us Copyright 2008 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 6:58PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
--James]]>Jan 19th 2008 7:26PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 8:28PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
If only now all of the other blogs also take the responsibility to follow suit we're sure to see some results.

Just come to think of it.. there are companies like Apple who is working on maximizing their software engine to deliver for the lack of hardware in the form on cell phone triangulation to compensate for a GPS chip... and in this case, the darn Qualcomm chips have the ATI uber advanced GUI engine built into it so WHY.. JUST WHY.. does someone not choose to include s/w for it is gotta be a bigger mystery than Area 51.

Geeks and bloggers of world... I hereby ask you to stand united in this quest. OK.. i'll tone it down. Just keep doing your bit of posting more about this issue and rest will come itself.

AJ]]>Jan 19th 2008 9:16PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 3:45AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
I don't think it's an issue with Qualcomm's chipset. Last I heard, there are devices out there that aren't manufactured by HTC, that have the 7200 Qualcomm chipset and aren't under-performing.]]>Jan 20th 2008 7:39AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 9:27PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 9:38PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 10:05PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 10:06PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
No he doesn't. He asked a legitimate question. If you're computer has video problems, do you go to Microsoft, the OEM or or the video card makers?

And before you say anything about me, I signed the petition about a month ago.]]>Jan 20th 2008 11:59PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
Technically Qualcomm burned HTC twice here. First selling HTC an "awesome" chip design with power-saving algorithms that infringed on Broadcom's IP therefore delaying a slew of Qualcomm device releases for HTC. Next, overcharging HTC for the drivers causing HTC to go half-assed because they've already got locked in. HTC, you really should've avoided Q's chips.

Blame the Q.]]>Jan 21st 2008 4:58AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
http://www.htcclassaction.org]]>Jan 19th 2008 11:33PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 11:41PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 19th 2008 11:42PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 12:06AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 4:49AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 9:32AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 3:10PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
See the first comment to this posting on my blog )blog is in Dutch, comment in English):
http://www.mobilecowboys.nl/nieuws/6548

]]>Jan 20th 2008 9:42AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/That whole thing is a bunch of crap.
I'm sure they can reproduce the error themselves if they'd just get off their lazy asses.

Just sayin.]]>Jan 20th 2008 3:29PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 4:57PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 23rd 2008 5:49PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 11:44AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 12:56PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 22nd 2008 6:50PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 20th 2008 10:48PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
Just to be clear. We are not iPhone fans.]]>Jan 21st 2008 11:30AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 21st 2008 11:42AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
And to Bobaka you obviously are a troll OR aren't an advanced user (in which case you should switch to the iPhone). Anyone who engages in touchscreen based graphics application, touchscreen based gaming and emulation, even using tom-tom WILL encounter this problem to the extent it renders said devices almost unusable. You want some imperical evidence? What's your response to this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vn6DAq5q6M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb8-m5opDA

And there are many more video examples to be found online. Wise man say: "look before you leap".

NuShrike, I blame HTC and non other. Their inner dealings with Qualcomm are no business of mine, what concerns me is that HTC (not Q) put out all these products KNOWING of this deficiency and summarily denied it's existence until the gang over at XDA Devs badgered them repeatedly and began pushing for greater awareness so people wouldn't make the same mistake many of us made in purchasing defective/deficient $700+ product OR getting them to provide a fix.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 6:58AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
But now I see a response from HTC saying, "We don't use the ATI & aren't fixing anything".

NOW HEAR THIS:
I say we need to somehow get together an HTC Email Hit List. If we can get email addresses of the Execs & make them focus their time on this problem it will SERIOUSLY impact their efficiency, use up their valuable time & truly make a difference.
The people we really need to bomb with emails are the ones who's time realy matter.

We need phone numbers (Direct) & email addresses for the people whom matter. If you can supply any of theser do so annonymously. I will be using several special databases to see if I can get any of this info as well.

LOOK OUT HTC YOUR ON THE HIT LIST (EMAIL HIT LIST)

For the USA:
Mark J. Baker, Senior Director, Enterprise Business Unit, Americas
David Kou, Director, Business Development, CDMA
Waiman Lam, Controller
Hsiao-Wen Lin, Director of Engineering
Jason B. Mackenzie, Vice President of Sales and Marketing
David Smith, Director of Marketing
Chris Stovall, Executive Director, National Accounts
Wyatt Whaley, Executive Director, National Accounts

For Europe:
Peter Chou, CEO and President HTC Corp.
Florian Seiche, Vice President HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Kevin Chen, Executive Director HTC EMEA Channel
Philip Blair, Product Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Peter Frolund, Account Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Frédéric Tassy, Account Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Lars Weisswange, Account Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Oliver Schulte, Finance Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Peter Chiang, Account Director HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Diane Studman, Head of European Marketing HTC Europe Co. Ltd.
Daniele De Grandis, Country Manager, Italy HTC Europe Co. Ltd.

These are the people at HTC whose time matter. Their lost minutes equal lost millions for HTC. Lets see what we can find & hit these people where it hurts (In their productivity & their pocket book)
]]>Jan 22nd 2008 1:30PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 22nd 2008 5:07PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
Tom-Tom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJWAu6IRe4

GDI Drawing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgfL227gmik

Watching a video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1shykuNIJK4
]]>Jan 23rd 2008 7:16AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
Good example- Quake, an RPG, Genesis Emulator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL8uq4FtduY

BEST EXAMPLE- web browsing on the Kaiser versus a Qtek voyager (a smartphone released in 2003 that still outperforms the Kasier):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qbaDLzOU_Y

Still waiting for your response Bobaka.]]>Jan 23rd 2008 7:24AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 23rd 2008 2:05PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 23rd 2008 7:28AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 23rd 2008 11:48AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/Jan 23rd 2008 4:44PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
then, after reading the response of htc on http://www.htcclassaction.org/responses.php#update_20080129_1_1, i think im gonna give any products this company produced, and will produce in the future, a miss.

including h/w without the drivers in the hp... having great specs but no s/w to support the h/w..

wat a bloody joke.

and its not even funny, considering how expensive the hp is.

"In addition to making sure the required hardware is present, unlocking extended capabilities of chipsets like the MSM 7xxx requires in-depth and time consuming software development, complicated licensing negotiations, potential intellectual property negotiations, added licensing fees, and in the case of devices that are sold through operators, the desire of the operator to include the additional functionality. To make an informed decision about which handset suits them best, consumers should look at the product specification itself instead of using the underlying chipset specifications to define what the product could potentially become. "


theres a saying in the Army...
"Dont make your problem my f---ing problem!"]]>Feb 4th 2008 2:34AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2008/01/19/driver-trouble-makes-angry-mobile-owners-rush-castle-htc-with-bu/
http://www.hardreset.eu/htc_kaiser_tytn_ii_p4550_hard_reset_soft_reset_en.html

I am very sad about it...]]>Mar 15th 2008 9:39PM