For most, the thought of spending $500 or more on a phone conjures one of two images: a high-end, do-it-all smartphone, or for 98 percent of the populace, insanity. There's a rare breed out there, though, that'll gladly shell out serious dough to get that ultimate, well executed, gorgeous, glossy phone delivered from the furthest reaches of the globe. Notice we said "phone" -- not smartphone -- and that's a key distinction here. The
Sony Ericsson K850i blurs that line in some respects, but at the end of the day, you're paying some
serious dinero for a powerful piece of kit that's still fundamentally tied down by its closed, proprietary platform. Yep, that's right, the K850i's a dumbphone -- albeit one of the hottest dumbphones we've ever seen or used, complete with triband HSDPA. So is the price justified? Does Sony Ericsson have any business stuffing this much power into a non-UIQ handset to begin with? We're pretty sure it's "yes" on both counts; read on to find out why.

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At the onset, we knew we were playing with a very special phone. Put simply, the K850i feels like a next-generation device put up against virtually any other phone we've ever used -- and we're not even talking about its impressive feature set, just pure, gut feel. The build quality is typical Sony Ericsson (that is to say, darned near perfect) and the keypad manages to innovate in some pretty extreme ways without being difficult or annoying to use. It's heavy, but we'd argue it's a "pleasant" heavy, if there is such a thing -- a reminder of what a solid and well-built piece of machinery you're toting around. At 17mm thick it's a little meaty by modern standards, but let's not forget that you're basically toting a true midrange point-and-shoot cam with you at the same time.

Just looking from the pictures, we admit that the keypad looks like a nightmare. Seriously, though, it isn't. We were as quick on the numbers as we are with any standard numeric keypad -- maybe even quicker since they're so well spread out here -- and the style of backlighting that Sony Ericsson uses here leads to a very cool visual effect. Three soft keys along the top aren't actually keys at all -- they're touch sensitive areas along the very bottom of the screen. The screen's wide enough that they're well spaced; mistypes weren't an issue, we didn't really miss the tactile feedback, and having three soft keys over the typical two turns out to be a nice productivity bonus in some cases. The directional control is nothing more than a thin ring circling the 2 and 5 keys. It sounds problematic, but the sides are raised enough so that you're able to feel it out in a hurry. Our biggest complaint is actually that it's not a perfect square; it just feels kinda weird for your thumb to need to travel further vertically than horizontally to accomplish the same function.

Like the K850i's glossy surface, its camera simply shines. The 5 megapixel sensor is backed up by the software and hardware to match -- goodies like a xenon flash, autofocus optics, an automatic lens cover, and numeric keys that are reidentified as camera controls with blue lighting (see the picture to get an idea of what we mean here; awesome effect). We found that the flash didn't quite have the firepower to evenly light up a dark room, but the same could be said about pretty much any built-in camera flash on the market, so we can't harsh on a poor little cameraphone for that shortcoming too much -- and on the upside, the xenon's color temperature seemed to be much more natural than the typical LED flash. The viewfinder's refresh rate was a bit on the low side compared to the 5 megapixel
Nokia N95 -- maybe 5fps at best -- and saving pics to memory takes a few seconds, too. But again, we'll try to keep things in perspective here and remember that we can pull RSS feeds and make calls with this thing.
Anyone familiar with Sony Ericsson's modern dumbphone UI cues will feel right at home with the K850i -- and as you might expect, this particular phone stretches the platform to its limits. The animated home screen is smooth, beautiful, and frankly, a little hypnotizing. The software bundle includes a couple pretty advanced games, a capable media player, integrated RSS reader, and a NetFront-based web browser that's particularly welcome thanks to support for North American HSDPA (have we said "thank you" for that yet, Sony Ericsson?). It seems capable enough considering the screen size and limited capability to download and run stuff you come across, though it'll never hold a candle to S60's integrated browser or the iPhone's build of Safari. Chalk one up for the smartphones here.
So where does that leave us? It's a weird package, we admit -- you've got a phone here that pushes the very limits of what it means to be a dumbphone while happily shattering into the realm of smartphone pricing. It's not for everyone and it's
certainly not for hackers, mobile email warriors or those on a tight budget, but if you're tired of toting a phone and a cam every where you go and you just happen to have a few hundred bucks burning a hole in your pocket, the K850i fits the bill swimmingly.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Brandon @ Oct 30th 2007 12:33PM
I'll wait until the price settles before picking one up. And one or two firmware updates.
Beautiful phone though. It's definitely been in my sights for a while now.
Mark @ Oct 31st 2007 12:19PM
Pretty much every hot new Sony Ericsson phone from the K700i onwards has been in the realm of $500+ for the first few days, until it gets available widely and the price drops.
sam @ Oct 30th 2007 12:52PM
I bought this about two weeks ago now, and its a joy to use. you can take pictures one after the other with virtually no lag, just as is the case with a mid range digital camera like my sony w-80.
a great phone, and i got it free on a 25 contract, so i can't complain!
Anthony @ Oct 30th 2007 5:41PM
I agree. I have the k850i up & running & an N95 sitting on a shelf for now.
The camera is a great deal better than the N95 & lag times are probably 1/2 as long (still not great by today's standards but as good as my 3 yr old Fujifilm 5mp camera).
There are some odd functionalities (like getting to speakerphone- which is weak) but otherwise I think I'm happy... Till the N82 that is.
travnewmatic @ Oct 30th 2007 12:55PM
I really love sony-ericsson's UI. From my limited experience, it's the most refined, flexible UI out there. However, it seems like many of their phones are fairly expensive. I have a Samsung right now and i hate it. Is there any other brand of phone that has as UI as polished and well put-together?
Bob @ Oct 30th 2007 1:30PM
Is it coming to att???
if not, were can I buy one??? :-)
g @ Oct 30th 2007 1:38PM
yea, expect it on at&t sometime soon
John @ Oct 30th 2007 3:01PM
Arguably the K850 is just as much a smartphone as iPhone for example since it has an incredible Java engine.
Anyway... I picked my K850 up last week (live in UK) and the features that I love, except the UI, are Active Sync support and the media player. The media player looks like the Playstation UI and is a joy to use.
Overall a worthy successor to my W880!
SteveMB @ Oct 30th 2007 5:22PM
Hot, dumb. So it's basically a blonde, right?
tobin92 @ Oct 30th 2007 5:22PM
Is this $500 after 2 year commitment?
I was thinking about getting this phone but $500 is a bit pricey....I would mcuh rather overhaul my PC for that pricr
drsilverworm @ Oct 30th 2007 6:08PM
$500 unlocked. No American network carries this phone yet, so it's unknown what the price will be with a contract.
It will certainly be below $500, that's for sure.
tnkgrl @ Oct 30th 2007 6:58PM
Here's my quick review: http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/sony-ericsson-k850i-observations/
loverofrice @ Oct 30th 2007 10:05PM
pair it with this software. http://fma.sourceforge.net/. you'll never ever want to buy anything else ever again.
Jon @ Oct 31st 2007 3:28AM
Those screenshots indicate that you're getting 3G support on AT&T's network. I was confident that the 3G support on that phone was limited to Asia and Europe since AT&T uses different bands for HSDPA, right? Because if that thing supports 3G in the USA, I'll be picking one up very shortly.
Iscariote @ Oct 30th 2007 2:15PM
One of the reasons a lot of people are so excited about the K850i is that is has tri-band HSDPA and works fine on AT&T's 3g network.
Lorne @ Nov 1st 2007 3:48PM
Does anyone know when it will be released in Canada?
Lorne @ Nov 1st 2007 3:51PM
Does anyone know when it will be released in Canada?
tnkgrl @ Nov 8th 2007 12:42AM
Here's my take on the camera: http://tnkgrl.wordpress.com/2007/11/07/sony-ericsson-k850i-camera-analysis/
marianne @ Nov 13th 2007 11:16PM
Does anyone know what the best price for a K850i would be, and where to purchase one?
realviper78 @ Nov 14th 2007 8:47PM
i know i can't wait. i am anxiously awaiting this phone in canada myself as well. and am not willing to pay 500 bucks for it. i will wait till rogers offers it and join them on contract. and finally tell bell off. not bad service but never up to date and new phones so.
Lorne @ Nov 15th 2007 4:01PM
I would just get it on a 3 year plan anyways. its much cheaper and easier.
so it's already been released in Canada but not with any phone services?
realviper78 @ Nov 15th 2007 5:50PM
i think it has just been released as an unlocked vers. so u pay high price to have it first and before most people. but wait a bit then everyone can have it for 1/2 p[rice or less with a contract.
patch @ Dec 12th 2007 3:08AM
mint phone had it a month and itll piss all over anything out at the min