Anyone who is cell phone savvy enough to unlock/hack/etc. their iPhone should also be smart enough to realize that ALL of the aforementioned actions would completely void the manufacturer's warranty/software agreement/etc. How did you people NOT see this coming?
As soon as you hack the iPhone and break off from at least one of the two parent companies, that's it. You're hosed. AT&T is a business and businesses don't appreciate a bunch of snot-nose little hippies who think it's cool to play "screw the establishment" and cause them, in turn, to loose revenue.
Or maybe you just think the iPhone is 'cool' and want it to work with your plan on T-Mobile. Instead of stealing the service for yourself, put your big boy/big girl pants on and move to AT&T. That's the way it works. Sorry folks, we don't always get what we want. I know half of you are all "'F' the man" and proud of it, but seriously - the agreement for the iPhone is between AT&T and Apple. PERIOD. I repeat - THEY ARE BUSINESSES. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY. THAT'S THE WAY CAPITALISM WORKS. If you don't like capitalism, I'm sure Cuba or Vietnam would love to have you.
No one said you HAVE to get an AT&T contract when you buy your iPhone. Hence the reason you can walk out of the store without signing 2 years of your life away. I like to travel to Europe and want to use my German T-mobile SIM card when I'm there. Should I be forced to use AT&T's outrageous roaming charges? No.
Jdog - you, sir, is a retard. Your retardation is evident from a simple fact that you are unaware of how people buy iPhones. Let me clue you in - when I pay a full unsubsidized price for the device I can do with it whatever I'm pleased, including unlocking, hacking, and molesting it in any manner I deem necessary. Moreover, as I unlock these phones, I take great pleasure in profiting off clueless fanboys/girls who are willing to pay $100.00 or more over retail just so they can take their shiny new toy to T-Mobile or elsewhere. I love Steve Jobs and I love Apple, but not for the reasons you may think. I love them for over $1000.00 in profits I made in the last two weeks selling unlocked iPhones, and I will continue to do so for as long as I can.
As for the Apple/AT&T not liking what I do, well.... as far as I'm concerned, they can kiss my hairy ass.
You are mad because you has signed up two-year contract and later discovered you can actually unlock it without binding contract. Well, it's too late, don't get jealous. When you bought the phone, the capitalism tells that the phone is yours; you can do whatever you want. If you can't, that's NOT capitalism, but rather communism. If you like it to be that way, you should be in Cuba or Viet yourself.
@tweak: "No one said you HAVE to get an AT&T contract when you buy your iPhone."
Actually, they did.
http://store.apple.com -- "Minimum new 2-year wireless service plan and activation fee required to activate iPhone features, including iPod; plans are subject to AT&T credit approval."
@PG:
Oh sure, you can do whatever you want to it. Just don't expect any official support. Let's just hope all those "clueless fanboys" don't start knocking down your door to solve their dead iPhone problems once this update rolls out.
People: DMCA = it's legal to unlock phone = no one can sue you under the purview of the DMCA for circumventing copyright protection systems. It's not an endorsement or enabler, it's a protection. It means you're safe. The same way it doesn't mean it is illegal for cellphones companies to lock them in the first place.
Don't buy a product if you don't agree with its terms, that is your power as a consumer. Don't encourage these sorts of contracts by giving one (or both) of them your hard-earned money. The day you stop encouraging these companies to make these sorts of business deals is the day we'll start to see a real unlocked phone market in this country. But as long as everyone's happy sucking on the subsidized teat of the networks, this will never happen.
Imagine if Apple had announced the iPhone with AT&T exclusivity, and there were no lines. Imagine what Apple would have done next. But self-control is in short supply, I see.
When the iPhone comes to the UK, I want one, BUT the carrier of Apples choosing in the UK was O2, great but O2 have patchy coverage and NONE at all where I both live and work, so the choice is no iPhone or a hacked iPhone...
Hacked iPhone it is then!
Perhaps if Apple were not so gready anf short sighted then selling a contract free phone would be the best thing to do, might actuall sell more units, here in the UK especially....
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
Jdog @ Sep 24th 2007 6:29PM
Anyone who is cell phone savvy enough to unlock/hack/etc. their iPhone should also be smart enough to realize that ALL of the aforementioned actions would completely void the manufacturer's warranty/software agreement/etc. How did you people NOT see this coming?
As soon as you hack the iPhone and break off from at least one of the two parent companies, that's it. You're hosed. AT&T is a business and businesses don't appreciate a bunch of snot-nose little hippies who think it's cool to play "screw the establishment" and cause them, in turn, to loose revenue.
Or maybe you just think the iPhone is 'cool' and want it to work with your plan on T-Mobile. Instead of stealing the service for yourself, put your big boy/big girl pants on and move to AT&T. That's the way it works. Sorry folks, we don't always get what we want. I know half of you are all "'F' the man" and proud of it, but seriously - the agreement for the iPhone is between AT&T and Apple. PERIOD. I repeat - THEY ARE BUSINESSES. THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY. THAT'S THE WAY CAPITALISM WORKS. If you don't like capitalism, I'm sure Cuba or Vietnam would love to have you.
tweak @ Sep 24th 2007 6:33PM
No one said you HAVE to get an AT&T contract when you buy your iPhone. Hence the reason you can walk out of the store without signing 2 years of your life away. I like to travel to Europe and want to use my German T-mobile SIM card when I'm there. Should I be forced to use AT&T's outrageous roaming charges? No.
Your argument sucks, please try again later.
RikF @ Sep 24th 2007 6:53PM
"Instead of stealing the service for yourself, put your big boy/big girl pants on and move to AT&T"
Who on earth is stealing anything? If people are paying for the phone then what exactly are they stealing?
PG @ Sep 24th 2007 7:44PM
Jdog - you, sir, is a retard. Your retardation is evident from a simple fact that you are unaware of how people buy iPhones. Let me clue you in - when I pay a full unsubsidized price for the device I can do with it whatever I'm pleased, including unlocking, hacking, and molesting it in any manner I deem necessary. Moreover, as I unlock these phones, I take great pleasure in profiting off clueless fanboys/girls who are willing to pay $100.00 or more over retail just so they can take their shiny new toy to T-Mobile or elsewhere. I love Steve Jobs and I love Apple, but not for the reasons you may think. I love them for over $1000.00 in profits I made in the last two weeks selling unlocked iPhones, and I will continue to do so for as long as I can.
As for the Apple/AT&T not liking what I do, well.... as far as I'm concerned, they can kiss my hairy ass.
highpitch1204 @ Sep 24th 2007 11:07PM
You are mad because you has signed up two-year contract and later discovered you can actually unlock it without binding contract. Well, it's too late, don't get jealous. When you bought the phone, the capitalism tells that the phone is yours; you can do whatever you want. If you can't, that's NOT capitalism, but rather communism. If you like it to be that way, you should be in Cuba or Viet yourself.
namtastic @ Sep 24th 2007 10:30PM
@tweak: "No one said you HAVE to get an AT&T contract when you buy your iPhone."
Actually, they did.
http://store.apple.com -- "Minimum new 2-year wireless service plan and activation fee required to activate iPhone features, including iPod; plans are subject to AT&T credit approval."
@PG:
Oh sure, you can do whatever you want to it. Just don't expect any official support.
Let's just hope all those "clueless fanboys" don't start knocking down your door to solve their dead iPhone problems once this update rolls out.
People:
DMCA = it's legal to unlock phone = no one can sue you under the purview of the DMCA for circumventing copyright protection systems. It's not an endorsement or enabler, it's a protection. It means you're safe. The same way it doesn't mean it is illegal for cellphones companies to lock them in the first place.
Don't buy a product if you don't agree with its terms, that is your power as a consumer. Don't encourage these sorts of contracts by giving one (or both) of them your hard-earned money. The day you stop encouraging these companies to make these sorts of business deals is the day we'll start to see a real unlocked phone market in this country. But as long as everyone's happy sucking on the subsidized teat of the networks, this will never happen.
Imagine if Apple had announced the iPhone with AT&T exclusivity, and there were no lines. Imagine what Apple would have done next. But self-control is in short supply, I see.
dale @ Sep 29th 2007 6:09PM
Jdog, what a To**ser you really are.
When the iPhone comes to the UK, I want one, BUT the carrier of Apples choosing in the UK was O2, great but O2 have patchy coverage and NONE at all where I both live and work, so the choice is no iPhone or a hacked iPhone...
Hacked iPhone it is then!
Perhaps if Apple were not so gready anf short sighted then selling a contract free phone would be the best thing to do, might actuall sell more units, here in the UK especially....