phoneArena scored a wealth -- nay, a
veritable cornucopia of information detailing Verizon's releases for the rest of 2007, and we can say with some confidence that there's something in here for everyone. Starting with smartphones,
SMT5800,
XV6800,
Samsung i760, and
Motorola Q9m should hit in October, October, September, and August (yay, this month!) respectively. A second, business oriented variant of the Q9, dubbed the Q9c, will follow on in the fourth quarter. If Windows Mobile ain't your cup of tea, have a gander at the
Palm Treo 755p and RIM BlackBerry Pearl 8130 (pictured), both coming in November. There isn't much to say about the 755p that hasn't already been said, but the 8130 is indeed a Pearl of the
"new" variety, upping the cam to 2 megapixels while adding A2DP and a 3.5mm jack. Turning to dumbphones, Verizon's got the full spread from low to high end. The Samsung U410, self-branded CDM-8630 and LG
VX8350 all appear to be pretty simple flips coming some time this half of the year. The Motorola Z6c looks to be a MediaFLO-less version of the
Z6tv slider; the former drops in November while the latter is nebulously scheduled for the second half. Finally, the fancy
U700 and U900 flips from Samsung offer 2 and 3 megapixel cams, respectively, and will both be available before the year's out. Whew!
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
elgee02 @ Aug 16th 2007 4:57AM
phonearena.com also says the z6c will be a global phone as well... finally a nice and new non PDA dual mode phone.
Awesome news.
JohnDoe303 @ Aug 16th 2007 5:26AM
So where's the new Treo..? 800w or whatever the name is this week.. It was dated for 8/27 then changed to 9/13.. Now Nothing..?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=9314184&postcount=327
Dave @ Aug 16th 2007 8:24AM
I am so bitter. The SMT5800 is about a year late. The Treo isn't out until November? For cryin' out loud ...
And Verizon changed the XV6800 enough from what Sprint has to make it ugly. Congratulations Verizon. Maybe they should call Sony about how to launch products.
frank @ Aug 16th 2007 9:26AM
What? No HTC Vogue? Does that mean it's coming to Sprint?
ShortFuse @ Aug 16th 2007 10:01AM
I'm not sure. Which one is the iPhone killer?
chrispeppler @ Aug 16th 2007 10:32AM
ShortFuse-exactly! Not sure the promised iPhone killer show's up in this list. Leave it to Verizon to deliver crappy handsets with even worse software.
nino63004 @ Aug 16th 2007 10:11AM
well on of the guys are the Vzw store told me the new Q would be the iPhone killer. I just laughed and said "are you serious?" he was.
tande @ Aug 16th 2007 12:31PM
Yep, I think everyone got a good laugh out of that.
There was an article awhile back about that. It was going to take Verizon 3 phones to equal one iphone.
The multimedia Q was one, the z8 another, and IIRC the final one was going to be the CDMA prada but that doesn't look like its coming for awhile.
I think its hillarious that Verizon seems to think that the only thing people want from the iphone is a multimedia phone.
I.P. Freely @ Aug 16th 2007 1:33PM
Yeah, I mean who cares about multi-media when status is involved!
TDG01 @ Aug 16th 2007 10:20AM
I just hope that with all the delays to the i760 and the XV6800, they get it right....God knows they've had enough time for testing..I'm not expecting perfection, but there's no reason for them to come out buggy....
I'll begin holding my breathe.....NOW.....
Futurecelltech @ Aug 16th 2007 1:23PM
I wish VZW would release a buddy/friend finder as oppossed to the 1-way Chpaerone service.
myke3630 @ Aug 16th 2007 3:11PM
The point to delaying launches isn't to make people wait and anticipate, but to get rid of previous models' stock levels. There are still a ton of xv6700's out there. Releasing the xv6800 would mean sitting on piles of older product.
Dave @ Aug 20th 2007 11:13AM
They could fix that by not being donkeys and allow OS upgrades to their phones.
*gasp*
Too sensible?
Scooter @ Aug 16th 2007 7:07PM
No libra until October? WTF!? What can be taking so long when CANADA has had it out all summer. Even a monkey could cripple a phone faster than they can...
Ridiculous. If only the N95 was coming out for AT&T sooner I could drop Verizon and finally get a GOOD phone.
elgee02 @ Aug 17th 2007 12:00AM
Save your money and get an i760.
Alex @ Aug 16th 2007 8:00PM
Dave, I agree, the xv6800 is a lot uglier than the Sprint version of the Mogul...
HTC Kid @ Aug 17th 2007 12:24AM
Wow, makes everything I did just totally pointless...
Anonymous @ Aug 17th 2007 1:38AM
HTC Kid what did you do that is totally pointless?
CK @ Aug 17th 2007 2:32AM
Is that it?
elgee02 @ Aug 16th 2007 6:27PM
Quite an impressive lineup actually.
- A CDMA BB Pearl that's better than the GSM variant
- 3 or 4 Rev. A capable (or upgradable) PDAs
- A new GSM/CDMA global capable slider phone
- 2 new thin flips from Samsung rocking 2 and 3 mp
- And a good new crop of basic phones for the "I just wanna make calls" crowd
What were you looking for? Find me another American carrier with a MORE impressive lineup total lineup coming out (ie more than ONE cool phone does not a lineup make eg iPhone).
Mobitent @ Aug 17th 2007 3:01PM
Wise move on VZW's choice. They were to have some of these out in Q2 '07 but held off to after the iPhone hype. While the iPhone may have raised the bar, the bar will continue to be pushed higher and higher as more users (all 230 million of them) demand more out of their smartie (smartphone).
trooth @ Aug 18th 2007 3:50PM
It is a good line up. What did AT&T do this summer? The released an IPhone that Verizon passed up. What did Verizon do this summer? Upgraded their whole network to revision A. If AT&T wants to have the chiquest phones on the worst network available, more power to them. I wouldn't bother paying $400-$600 to get a device to use on a network that is just above Dial Up standards. Notice Sprint not saying that they have the fastest service available to the most people anymore? Cause they can't Verizon has the same speed and reaches a larger audience.
Since we are looking at carrier performance there are 3 count them 3 windows mobile 6 phones on the US market right now. The first one was released in June, so we are looking at 2-3 months behind for Verizon Wireless. AT&T has 0, Sprint has 1, and T-Mobile has 2. Yeah AT&T has the newest devices? The I-Phone fan boys have to hype up AT&T now. AT&T is not the leader when it comes to Windows Mobile 6 and if Verizon comes out with a winmo phone first, AT&T will be in last place when it comes to business, professional consumer devices.
InternationalUser @ Aug 19th 2007 11:44AM
Apologies if my questions are in the wrong forum.
I am with Verizon out of contract but need to use phone 90% NYC area 10% Paris area. (Prefer not to have 2 phones, nor to rent.)
But Verizon has little GSM choice & has dropped the Samsung i830.
If I want compact smartphone + GSM + Windows (+ touchscreen if possible), should I drop Verizon & go to Cingular or T-Mobile?
Is there anything the size of a Dash or Blackjack with GSM+Windows+touch? Is there any possibility of Verizon putting one out within 1 yr? Will the i760 support GSM?
IJustWantABB @ Oct 10th 2007 5:36PM
Sprint still has the i830. Or is it that you don't want to deal with Sprint at all?
InternationalUser @ Aug 19th 2007 12:31PM
It appears that Verizon's i760 will not have GSM, leaving Verizon with ONE single lonely "modern," Bluetooth-enabled GSM phone, the Blackberry 8830. For those of us who wish any choice, we'll just have to move to Cingular or T-Mobile. (Which of these 2 carriers has better NJ & Paris coverage?)
What's wrong with Verizon? After all these years of multi-mode phones, one would think it would have found a way to satisfy those of us consumers in the international-use market. I infer it doesn't really want the market.
elgee02 @ Aug 19th 2007 9:33PM
Uhh dude it's not like the demand for dual mode phones is THAT high. What's wrong with the BB 8830 anyways?
ShortFuse @ Aug 20th 2007 10:13AM
I live in NJ and work in NY. Verizon doesn't have signal in my basement and some places where I work (mostly bronx). T-Mobile is spotty sometimes. I have yet to find one location that doesn't have signal with cingular/att. the only place was exiting the lincoln tunnel and on my road to/from george washington bridge but that was a year ago. there's no problem now.
ShortFuse @ Aug 20th 2007 10:18AM
but elgee02 is right. the demand isn't that high and don't expect Verizon to cater to the smaller % of their customers. that's actually the main complaint hardcore cellphone users have with verizon:
5GB data cap; Forced UI; weak international support; blocked bluetooth profiles; restricted usb transfering; restricted downloading; weak 3rd party support (no java). to name a few.
the average engadgetmobile reader is usually a hardcore cellphone user. very few who sit down and read cellphone specs would fall under the "i just wanna make a phone call" group
elgee02 @ Aug 20th 2007 3:12PM
ShortFuse I just spent a week in Manhattan with a day trip to Queens and VZW's signal never went below 1 bar (only in the deepest subway tunnels like where you get on the 7 train in the times square station). Not a single dropped call either. Yet my friends in NY claim ATT is spotty and not too great at all in NYC... hmmm
ShortFuse @ Aug 20th 2007 6:22PM
Yes you spent one week and had word of mouth with a friend. I work in NYC every weekday. I carry a AT&T phone. My coworker goes to NYC every weekday with me has Verizon. This has been for a couple of months now. HMMMMM!
ShortFuse @ Aug 20th 2007 6:34PM
Yes, I said most spotty coverage for Verizon is mostly in the Bronx. When I go the NYC, it's to do onsite tech jobs with a coworker of mine. This 5 days a week and for a few months now. He has Verizon and I have AT&T. He constantly asks to borrow my phone. It's been a running joke about his phone doesn't have signal. Say what you want about your word-of-mouth rants of one person and a week in the city, but I go through with it nearly every day: "Can I borrow your phone?"
InternationalUser @ Aug 21st 2007 12:50PM
Elgee
1. For a number of reasons, I strongly prefer WM os to BB os.
2. Cingular & T-Mobile seem to see a big enough market for intl business to offer two dozen quad-band phones. While it's easier for them given their core GSM technology, the difference is extreme - two dozen "intl" phones at Cingular + T-Mobile, ONE at Verizon.
3. It seems as if Verizon has ceded the intl market to Cingular + T-Mobile without much of a fight. Or, is Verizon just putting its toe in the water & plans to expand thereafter?
4. Thanks for the NYC-area coverage feedback. Does anyone know how Paris coverage is, of the partners of the US majors (Verizon, Cingular, T-mobile)? Does anyone know of a French blog equivalent to Engadget?
Any and all information is much appreciated -- intl phones & service are expensive & I don't want to lock myself into an expensive phone & contract (~ $100/mo or more) which turns out not to serve my purposes.
Jon @ Aug 20th 2007 12:46PM
Does anyone know if Verizon's pearl will have video capture/playback on it?
weasldude @ Aug 20th 2007 10:34PM
q9m drops this wed 8/22
Moy.Joy @ Aug 21st 2007 11:26PM
I live in NYC and have had AT&T and Verizon. AT&T service was crap. You know that commercial where the guys is up on the file cabinet squishes himself in a ball in order to get cell service? That was me. I could barely use it at home and on the Long Island Railroad forget it!!! I have Verizon now and I can talk anywhere at home, in the AT&T dead spots at my parent's house, on the Long Island Railroad and even in many subway stations and I rarely have a dropped call.
Oh, and last week my sister got married in middle-of-nowhere Massachusettes and I had a signal where my Sprint brother had none. Oh, and it worked when I was out sailing in Hawaii and my sister was on her honeymoon cruise to Puerto Rico out at sea in the middle of hurricane dean and she had no problem calling and texting me. (she's home now) So yeah, I'm confident in standing behind Verizon service.
Dave @ Aug 22nd 2007 3:17PM
I agree. Too bad it's going to be DECEMBER before we see any kind of decent WM6 selection.
SSSSSd @ Aug 25th 2007 11:15PM
What are the price ranges on these phones?
carl d. @ Aug 25th 2007 11:17PM
yeah I would like to know the price ranges too.
also, what if i'm looking for a multimedia phone and i have to use verizon? i dont want the lg enV because it's like a year old...is the UTStarcom SMT5800 or the Samsung i760 or UTStarcom XV6800 good choices if i don't want to use the business aspect?
yosepi @ Aug 27th 2007 3:09AM
say what you want about phone crippling and running jokes about vzw people borrowing an at&t phone...but vzw invests so much money in it's network that by the time tmobile and at&tingular realize that they can't make money on slanging trendy unfinished phones, vzw will have rolled out rev b with a catalogue of almost 100% of their phones doing exactly what the iphone toots it's horn about, except without the fancy apple sticker on the box.
plus come on, you had to combine two carriers to combat one, the only reason at&t is the largest network is because verizon passed up cingular's PREPAID AND POSTPAID customer base with its postpaid alone (since vzw doesn't count prepaid as part of it's customerbase) and had to make a sloppy joke of a merge to cover their marketing execs. fewest dropped calls? don't see those ads anymore because you can't drop them if you can't make them....plus verizon can sue them for making that claim now.
haters be hating but next time you walk by a verizon store, step inside and see for yourself.
Dave @ Aug 27th 2007 2:36PM
Way to rant about something no one is complaining about :)
We WANT to be with Verizon. We just want their GD phones that were announced 3 quarters ago.
Zach @ Sep 3rd 2007 2:30PM
I love being with Verizon. I've been a customer for fifteen years now! The problem isn't the phones they release. Or the amazing service which is always crystal clear. Or the Customer Service which is typically top notch or helpful.
It's a damn tethering data plans and the ungodly costs per month to use 'em!
brafft @ Aug 29th 2007 4:59PM
You have to be kidding, now it's Oct for the 5800, 6800, and i760? Forget it, I've been waiting for the last three months, with a phone that barely works....you just lost my business....you don't even come close to making your release dates...the 5800 is now in Oct!? Its a smart phone that is now running on every network except yours.