HTC Kaiser gets clean bill of health from FCC

by Sean Cooper, posted Jul 25th 2007 at 9:32PM

Everybody's favorite king of all mobiles, the HTC Kaiser, has been swept out the door after its trials with the FCC. Interestingly, we peeped three flavors of the handset: KAIS100, KAIS110, and the KAIS120 -- we saw similar variants for the Hermes. Could one of these models end up as an AT&T forward facing camera-less handset a la 8525? Perhaps the rumored AT&T 8925 -- yeah, we're stretching here. Another sticky point found is that the confidentiality agreement covering user manual and pictures doesn't expire until the 8th of September, hardly a reasonable date for an ~~July~~ August launch there, HTC. Regardless of the what or the when, we know it's now on the home straight and all we can do is twiddle our thumbs until HTC makes its move and gives us a solid date.

Filed under: Handsets, HTC, Windows Mobile, GSM, GPRS, EDGE, HSDPA

Tags: FCC, HTC, kais100, kais110, kais120, Kaiser

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Brettinsocal @ Jul 25th 2007 9:49PM

I want this puppy SO BAD (in CDMA) I can taste it!!!

... Ummm, plasticy!

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Martin @ Jul 25th 2007 10:40PM

Get over it. You'll have to wait almost a year just like with the Titan. Maybe you should switch to a carrier with a REAL network, GSM. Besides how could you use the video calling feature on a network that doesn't support it? Yeah that's what I thought....

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johnny hates waiting @ Jul 25th 2007 11:34PM

if this had a vga screen I would switch to get it.

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ShortFuse @ Jul 26th 2007 12:14AM

Either FCC.gov broke or the link doesn't work.

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BrianC @ Jul 26th 2007 2:47AM

Don't understand why people still want VGA on a tiny screen. Users from Toshiba G900 have reported that they have to strain their eyes to read the screen. Seriously if you want high resolution, get a laptop or the UMPC. If you want compact phones that can fit in your pocket, QVGA is the best so far.

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Don't Panic! @ Jul 26th 2007 10:58PM

I think the G900 uses REALVGA instead of the MS standard. Just my opinion. I love that keyboard!

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Brettinsocal @ Jul 26th 2007 4:44AM

Martin, don't hate the playa... hate the game.
I was on AT&T for years... GSM sucks in the US and you know it. Not to pile on, but the only thing inferior to that networks' signal quality is its customer service. Couldn't give a rip about video calling. You let me know when YOU place your next such call... in the meantime, I'll be using my EVDO Rev. A data services later today...

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Martin @ Jul 26th 2007 5:13AM

It's not just about video calling, it's about the fact that I can do voice and data at the same time. So while you're having to tell the person on the other end of the line that you'll have to call them back to look that thing up that you need, I'll be chattin on my bluetooth surfin HSDPA (which I can get up to 7.2 mbps vs. 3.6 on EVDO rev. A) while talkin to my homies. No need to hang up, I can just keep on talkin. And the fact that you think you're signal quality is so much better just shows YOUR ignorance.

But of course video calling actually IS a big thing which many countries around the world have had for a long time. I'm sure, no I KNOW you'd be changing your tune if Verizon had it. Oh and speaking of which, good luck taking your CDMA phone to anywhere in Europe and pretty much any country around the world. Oh that's right you can't, you have to buy the Blackberry 8830.

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PEZ @ Jul 26th 2007 11:22AM

you are just jealous of the acronyms. Dont hate the playa? From which year and planet are you coming from?

CDMA is dead. HAHAHAHAHAHAH. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

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Brettinsocal @ Jul 27th 2007 3:33AM

Damn Martin, you have cut me to the quick! Your startling revelations have finally enabled me to see things clearly. Now I get it, the next time I find myself in Luxembourg desperately trying to surf the web, while wishing I was also simultaneously talking to the all the people back in the US that also don't have video calling, I'll curse the heavens and wish I was on AT&T!!! Well played Sir! 'Till then, I'll just have to struggle along with the other 2/3's of the U.S. population that live in areas covered by EVDO Rev. A NOW. Oh, and the next time YOU do "anything" at speeds anywhere close to the "paper" maximums you claim� will be the first time. But hey, keep dreamin'! I know you will at least have plenty of time to do that� between dropped calls.

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AndyNJ @ Jul 26th 2007 9:23AM

Hey HTC, get this thing in my hands already! My SE P910a is over 2.5 years old and I need to replace it.

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fyreblazer @ Jul 26th 2007 10:30AM

I cannot wait for this thing. This for a great price might finally get me to move from my AT&T Blue plan................nahhhh.

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Mike Salem @ Jul 26th 2007 10:44AM

wow big surprise here...DOWN WITH THE FCC!!

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JohnDoe303 @ Jul 26th 2007 4:56PM

@ Martin

lol, Sprint SERO over all. 49.99 a month, 1250 Anytime minutes, n&w @ 7pm, Unl Data 1100/200 latency aroun 220ms, Unl pic/vid mail, Unl m2m, and Unl txt. I'll stick with a choice between the Mogul or the Treo 800w for that plan and data service.

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Martin @ Jul 26th 2007 6:31PM

First of all, learn to use the reply button. Second, you don't get bonus points for throwing an employee plan at me. AT&T has employee plans too. Third, you shouldn't get too excited about those data speeds you threw at me, latency of 220ms is HIGH. I get on average over HSDPA no more than 150ms and usually around 100ms with equal down speeds and 300+ UP. Finally, one of the phones you mentioned isn't even OUT yet, and the other one is the ONLY good phone that Sprint has (for the most part).

Finally, everything that I said before above still applies with Sprint's coverage being even worse than AT&T OR Verizon's. Fact of the matter is, you may have a little better pricing, but you get what you pay for. In addition to everything I said before, if I listed off all the phones that AT&T has you'd probably go crying to your mommy.

Bottom line: The only thing you did by posting employee plan pricing was show just how much of a cheap bastard you are.

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Ryan @ Aug 1st 2007 12:21AM

I had Cingular for a year and couldn't get reception in my apartment which sucked hardcore no matter how great their network is the rest of the world. Switched to SERO, and can not only get service in my apartment, pay 60% less for more minutes, unlimited data, mms, and txt...not to mention free roaming on Verizon. So you get Sprint + Verizon's network for cheap = no-brainer for me!

HSPDA may theoretically be faster, but I'm willing to sacrifice a theoretical number for improved voice quality and coverage.

My preference FTW!

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JohnDoe303 @ Jul 26th 2007 7:12PM

@ Martin

If you knew anything about Engadget you'd know you cannot reply to a reply.

Oh and it's not an employee plan, SERO stands for Sprint Employee Ref feral Offer.. The things is Sprint sold (feb '07) and continues to sell (http://www.sprint.com/sero) it to the public. Oh and 200ms isn't high for latency.. I don't know where you're getting your info from. Do yourself a favor and visit broadbandreports.com for some background information. There's no point in arguing over the superior data network, Sprint clearly has it wrapped up.. Between REV.A on the Mogul to WiMAX this fall.

The coverage is your opinion.. My Sprint service is great and is much better then ATT in the area, I know because my girl is stuck in contract with them for another year. I just took a trip and my Sprint service was solid all the way from South Florida to Noth Carolina. As for the phones.. No I'm good the Mogul does more then enough and that's without getting into the Hybrid iDen phones.

Bottom line: The only things I accomplished by posting about the SERO plan was showing how much of an educated consumer I am and attempting to help others see the light. FYI, you can all receive a 50$ invoice credit by entering URANG while chcking out @ Sprint.com OR Sprint.com/SERO

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Martin @ Jul 26th 2007 8:26PM

You can reply to yourself though and keep it in the thread which is what most "people who know anything about" Engadget do. Pshh....

Anyways, I don't have to argue about speeds with you. Here's the FACTS:

Most landline providers average between 40-70ms latency.
I get 100-150ms latency on HSDPA.
That means that if you're getting 200+ ms latency that's HIGH. ESPECIALLY since that's close to what I can get on the slower EDGE. As for WIMAX, since I'm personally involved with it's rollout, I can tell you first hand that it's gonna be at least a year before it's available. And if YOU knew anything about WIMAX, you'd know that it's mostly targeting homes as a replacement for current internet providers as there's little to NO application for anything beyond 3-5 mbps on a cell phone. Especially since very few cellphones even have the necessary processing power to handle those types of speeds (PDA's excluded). Anyways, since it's not even close to being rolled out yet, you've got NO leg to stand on for that argument.

As for the coverage, well why don't you check your coverage maps. There's no arguing with those. But I can tell you that they don't even come close in rural areas (Think T-Mobile).

I'm glad you're happy with the Mogul. But the fact of the matter is that it's almost a FULL YEAR behind the GSM version and that's the way it's going to be for as long as Verizon and Sprint continue to use CDMA. Anyways, like I said, that's the ONLY good Sprint phone, and unfortunately for you not everyone wants a 300 dollar PDA phone. The fact is that with GSM you DO get more options for phones as well as options for where you can use them. Which reminds me, how come you don't respond to the global use comment I made or the simultaneous voice and data comments. Oh wait don't answer that, I already know why...

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JohnDoe303 @ Jul 26th 2007 8:46PM

While most of your information is clearly unfounded, you did teach me something new about the reply system.

As for your comments about latency, I again have to urge you do some research.. Average latency is much higher then 40-70ms for the consumer.. Trust me I know more then ever as I've been shopping for HSI at my newest business location. Broadbandreports.com is a very user friendly forum where you can discuss HSI all day.. They've got a powerful search, give it a try.

I did check my coverage maps, I would hope anyone do so before they buy wireless service. My service both data and voice is solid from the Florida Keys all the way to Mooresville NC. Also, I don't live in a rural area so I could care less about it's coverage.. Florida is covered where I coast to coast where I've driven so I'm good.

I'm actually planning on the Treo 800w coming Q4. The whole GSM vs CDMA is opinionated at best.. get off it, we do the best with what's available to us. While I have Comcast 8/756 I wish I had FiOS, but I can't so I make do with what I have. Oh and Sprint has lots of great phones, you're probably to busy writing these replies to check but give it a try. I don't know if you're familiar with the hybrid iDen phones from Moto but they're very powerful and popular. Bottom line your GSM argument is nothing but your opinion and that's that. You're not going to make me change my mind and I'm sure I speak for everyone else too. We're with Sprint, I have SERO, my service is great, REV.A is coming, WiMAX is coming, unlimited data, 49.99 and a 15% corp discount, and that's it.

Oh and I didn't even bother reading your other replies, and if I missed it oh well.. Your replies are to long to keep my attention and full of your opinion, nothing more. Get a clue, and try again.

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Martin @ Jul 26th 2007 9:40PM

"...Your replies are too long, full of opinion..." "Most of your information is unfounded..."

Wow hypocrite much?

Point is that 90% of what you been saying is what relates to YOU. No one cares okay? On here, all that matters is what relates to MOST people. I'm happy for you that you live in the middle of Miami on top of largest building so you get perfect reception /sarcasm/. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about what's good for EVERYONE including self centered people such as yourself.

As for GSM vs. CDMA:
-Sim cards
-Unlockable global use phones
-HSDPA which means faster speeds and simultaneous voice and data
-Used worldwide (apparently someone must like GSM) therefore roaming worldwide is much easier and using your phone with overseas carriers is actually possible.

I don't see any opinion there do you?

As for Sprint having great phones, let's use some more of this FACT stuff that we enjoy talking about. Tell you what, for everyone 1 good phone you give me from Sprint I'll give you 2 from AT&T. But in reality, Sprint doesn't really have that many good phones. No opinions, I've got real facts to prove it. Just go to both websites and you'll see.

Regarding the latency, I couldn't find on dslreports where you were talking about but I DO know that 70ms and below is the standard. I do this all the time for a living (going to people's homes and setting up their computers and testing internet connections). The fact that you think 220ms is low just proves to everyone on here that you don't know what you're talking about. But unfortunately this is the only thing that I don't have proof for, so I'm gonna have to just keep letting you think you're right.

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Don't Panic! @ Jul 26th 2007 11:05PM

I'VE FOUND THE DARKHAND! whoa; To bad it's a blog. Flame, Flame on...

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G in Dallas @ Jul 27th 2007 10:44PM

Martin (and Brettinsocal),

Thanks for your comments - I'm sure I'm not the only person reading and learning. Hey - Martin - question. Do you think Rev A, in a covered city, is typically slower than HDSPA? I'm even willing to admit that, at least from what I've learned here and elsewhere, that GSM is where things are heading. But - it seems the consensus is Rev. A is much quicker.

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ShortFuse @ Jul 31st 2007 12:39PM

RevA has a little higher latency than HSDPA and theoretical peaks of RevA is 3.1 while theoretical peaks of HSDPA is 3.6mbps (as it is now though it can be upgraded to 14.4). I have AT&T's Proxy internet plan (the $20 a month unlimited not meant for tethering) not AT&T's ISP internet plan, and that is capped at 200KBps (1.5mbps) but that's the max I can achieve. I'm not sure if the ISP plan (LaptopConnect/PDA Connect) is capped at 1.5mbps. HSDPA is faster than RevA but usually not enough of a difference to notice. The benefit is also the ability to use make calls while using the data network.

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