http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/ Engadget Mobile Comments for Who won't be getting the iPhone? http://www.engadgetmobile.com/media/feedlogo.gif http://www.engadgetmobile.com en-us Copyright 2009 Weblogs, Inc. The contents of this feed are available for non-commercial use only. Blogsmith http://www.blogsmith.com/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 2:31PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
There is obviously something we just don't that makes a world of difference. What on earth is is though?]]>Jan 17th 2007 2:40PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
ANynone have any info on this?]]>Jan 17th 2007 3:23PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/and the ones that don't have coverage: 1. probably dont have Cingular anyways
and 2. its just too bad, nothing can be done and it sucks, but i don't know how far cingular would go out of their way to meet the needs of maybe the 10% of the population that doesn't have coverage cause they can make billions without them]]>Jan 17th 2007 3:17PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
Ipod with:
a touchscreen
a widescreen
Wi-Fi (no need for a carrier)
a bigger HDD

I'd buy it.]]>Jan 17th 2007 3:41PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 4:31PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
And for the record, last time I was in Burlington, I saw a vending machine for Live Bait. I don't think that's the iPhone market.]]>Jan 17th 2007 4:43PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 4:45PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 5:00PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 18th 2007 8:47AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 7:43PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
#10: The Chocolate and the Blackjack weren't nearly as hyped as the iPhone, though your point still stands. It will most likely go to other carriers, but the question is, how long will the wait be (how long is that exclusivity agreement)? Will it ever come to CDMA? And will it improve its features to make it at least 40% worth the price?

So many questions, so little answers.]]>Jan 17th 2007 5:56PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 17th 2007 9:08PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
Out west there are HUGE tracts of land with no one in them. Look at the Nevada coverage. They cover the Las Vegas area, they cover the highway 80 corridor. That probably cover 99% of the people in the state at any given moment.]]>Jan 17th 2007 9:43PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
>AT&T...they have the largest digital voice and data network in america

WRONG

>not analog like sprint

WRONG

> and verizon (most reliable) proclaim.

WRONG

>if you don't work for the companies you don't know squat. THANK YOU come again.

And which of these companies did you manage to get through the drug screen with?]]>Jan 17th 2007 11:35PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/
I'm not a Verizon fanboi, their paradigm of anally raping their customers' wallets is no fun, but they currently provide the largest and most reliable coverage area in Albuquerque; I still don't get good enough cell service in my house to not have to use my land line, but it's not their faults. Its due to a zoning law established before the invention of the cell phone, and it won't expire for at least another decade. ]]>Jan 17th 2007 11:35PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/But take the razr as an example, at first only cingular had it but now its so popular and every carrier has their own version of it.]]>Jan 18th 2007 12:52AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 18th 2007 9:20AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 18th 2007 11:23AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Jan 19th 2007 9:07PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Yeah, so GSM reaches 2 billion people. Are there 2 billion who can actually AFFORD the iPhone, and a 2-year cell phone plan? NOOOOOO!

Yeah, lay off the crack pipe. Apu is NOT funny.

Further, from an economical prespective, it is kind of a bad move. The two largest celluar telephone markets, Japan and North America (ones of which have the most immediate impact on the iPhone (well, maybe not Canada, since service has not been readily introduced)), CDMA and other standards are actually dominant. Cingular may be the largest carrier in the US (which it didn't exactly earn to begin with), but it garners about 60 million, while the only other GSM carrier, T Mobile, garners about 28 million. Add minor GSM carriers, we're talking at most 90 million. Verizon and Sprint, on the other hand, each hold about 57 million. Alltel holds about 15 million, and is growing. With minor carriers, the CDMA market in the US is approximately 130 million, nearly 50% more than the GSM market.

Now let's add another element to the equation: Europe. Clearly, Apple will benefit from the large, GSM-only community in Europe. But there's one major problem: Europe HATES Apple. The Brits think Apple's ripping off their styles, and they love their Skypes. France wants Apple to open up iTunes. Germany's most popular carrier is T-Mobile, and they're not going to negotiate unless the American exclusivity agreement is dropped. There are other factors, but it's clear that Apple just isn't loved in Europe.

Theoretically, Apple could negotiate with Vodafone, and get a WIDE piece of the pie there (one that will be simple, too, rather negotiating with every dominant carrier in the country). However, Vodafone has a majority stake in Verizon (45%), so if the exclusivity deal prevents Apple from producing a CDMA/EV-DO model of the iPhone, I seriously doubt Vodafone will even negotiate. Thus, Apple will once again have little control over the market.

My guess: If Apple knows what's best for them, when we find out the exclusive carrier for the GSM models, we will hear word of a CDMA model in the works.]]>Jan 21st 2007 12:03AMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/You'd be wrong, Alltel actually has the biggest nationwide network covering more square feet than any other carrier. Cingular has the most subscribers solely because it has more coverage in Metro areas. VZW has second biggest network and second in subscribers followed by Cingular in 3rd for coverage 1st in subscribers, Sprint next in 4th with coverage 3rd in subscribers, Tmobile last in fifth but 4th in subscribers. Alltel has the most coverage but the 5th in subscribers]]>Jan 25th 2007 7:51PMhttp://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/17/who-wont-be-getting-the-iphone/Feb 16th 2007 4:34PM